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==''[[Rhythm Tengoku]]''== | ==''[[Rhythm Tengoku]]''== | ||
{{TCRF|section=1|Rhythm Tengoku (Game Boy Advance)#Rhythm Tweezers|Rhythm Datsumo|Proto:Rhythm Tengoku (Game Boy Advance)#Rhythm Tweezers|its demo version}} | |||
[[Rhythm Tweezers 2|Rhythm Datsumo]] consists of the following [[Rhythm Game#Version|version]]s in ''[[Rhythm Tengoku]]'': | [[Rhythm Tweezers 2|Rhythm Datsumo]] consists of the following [[Rhythm Game#Version|version]]s in ''[[Rhythm Tengoku]]'': | ||
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|<div style="text-align:center>00</div> | |<div style="text-align:center">00</div> | ||
|[[File:Screenshot GBA Rhythm Datsumo.png| | |[[File:Screenshot GBA Rhythm Datsumo.png|frameless|center]] | ||
|[[Rhythm Tweezers 2|Rhythm Datsumo]]<br>[[Remix 1 (GBA)|Remix 1]]<br>[[Remix 6 (GBA)|Remix 6]]<br>[[Remix 7 (GBA)|Remix 7]]<br>[[Remix 8 (GBA)|Remix 8]] | |[[Rhythm Tweezers 2|Rhythm Datsumo]]<br>[[Remix 1 (GBA)|Remix 1]]<br>[[Remix 6 (GBA)|Remix 6]]<br>[[Remix 7 (GBA)|Remix 7]]<br>[[Remix 8 (GBA)|Remix 8]] | ||
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|<div style="text-align:center>01</div> | |<div style="text-align:center">01</div> | ||
|[[File:Screenshot GBA Rhythm Datsumo Turnip.png| | |[[File:Screenshot GBA Rhythm Datsumo Turnip.png|frameless|center]] | ||
|[[Remix 8 (GBA)|Remix 8]] | |[[Remix 8 (GBA)|Remix 8]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|<div style="text-align:center>02</div> | |<div style="text-align:center">02</div> | ||
|[[File:Screenshot GBA Rhythm Datsumo Remix 8.png| | |[[File:Screenshot GBA Rhythm Datsumo Remix 8.png|frameless|center]] | ||
|[[Remix 8 (GBA)|Remix 8]] | |[[Remix 8 (GBA)|Remix 8]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
|<div style="text-align:center>03</div> | |<div style="text-align:center">03</div> | ||
|[[File:Screenshot GBA Rhythm Datsumo 2.png| | |[[File:Screenshot GBA Rhythm Datsumo 2.png|frameless|center]] | ||
|[[Rhythm Datsumo 2]] | |[[Rhythm Datsumo 2]] | ||
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|<div style="text-align:center>04</div> | |<div style="text-align:center">04</div> | ||
|[[File:Screenshot GBA Rhythm Datsumo 2 Turnip.png| | |[[File:Screenshot GBA Rhythm Datsumo 2 Turnip.png|frameless|center]] | ||
|Unused | |Unused | ||
|- | |- | ||
|<div style="text-align:center>05</div> | |<div style="text-align:center">05</div> | ||
|[[File:Screenshot GBA Rhythm Datsumo 2 Potato.png| | |[[File:Screenshot GBA Rhythm Datsumo 2 Potato.png|frameless|center]] | ||
|Unused | |Unused | ||
|} | |} | ||
===Early | ===Early Builds=== | ||
[[Rhythm Tweezers 2|Rhythm Datsumo]] was originally going to be about pulling out hairs off an old man's head, with the graphics using a photo of a development staff member's face. To express the complex psychology of it feeling good to pull out hairs cleanly despite it hurting, the game | [[Rhythm Tweezers 2|Rhythm Datsumo]] was originally going to be about pulling out hairs off an old man's head, with the graphics using a photo of a development staff member's face. To express the complex psychology of it feeling good to pull out hairs cleanly despite it hurting, [[niwanetwork:Masami Yone|Masami Yone]]<ref>"この「リズム脱毛」は、任天堂の米さんがつくった曲だったのですが、曲を聴くとアラビアっぽいのに、どうしてヒゲを抜くか?って(笑)。 (This "Rhythm Tweezers" song was created by Mr. Yone of Nintendo, and when I listened to the song, it sounded Arabic, so I wondered why is it about pulling out hairs? (laughs).) ~ [https://www.imdb.com/name/nm10236295/ Hideki Oguro], ''[[Rhythm Tengoku Zen Kyoku-shu]]'' STAFF'S VOICE</ref> gave the game an Arabian-style theme<ref>"初期の段階では、主役はおっちゃんだったんです。ツルツル頭に生えた毛を、もろに抜いちゃうような仕様になっていまして(笑)。毛は抜かれると痛いですけど、キレイに抜けると気持ちがよかったりしますので、そういった複雑な心理を表現したいと思って、アラビア風の怪しげな曲にしました。でも、開発の大詰めになったときに、いくらゲームでも、頭の毛を抜くのはマズイだろろうということになりまして、タマネギが主役になりました。" (In the early stages, the leading role was played by an old man. The hairs on his smooth head were designed to be plucked out (laughs). It hurts when the hair is pulled out, but it feels good when it is pulled out cleanly, so we wanted to express that kind of complex psychology, so we decided on a weird Arabic-style song. However, when it came to the final stages of development, we decided that even in a game, it would be a bad idea to pull out the hairs on the head, so the onion became the main character.) ~ [[niwanetwork:Masami Yone|Masami Yone]], ''[[Rhythm Tengoku Zen Kyoku-shu]]'' STAFF'S VOICE</ref>. Later on, as the idea of pulling hairs off the head "wasn't suitable for everyone", it was changed to the beard instead<ref>"ちなみに、リズムに合わせてヒゲではなく頭髪を抜くという案もあったのですが、それだとちょっと万人向けではないということあり、その案はボツになりました。ま、当然ですね(笑)。" (Incidentally, there was also a proposal to remove the hair from the head instead of the beard to match the rhythm, but that idea was rejected because it was not suitable for everyone. Well, of course it was (laughs).) ~ [[niwanetwork:Katsuya Yamano|Katsuya Yamano]], [https://www.1101.com/nintendo/rythm_heaven2/16.html ほぼ日刊イトイ新聞 - 樹の上の秘密基地。] (Hobo Nikkan Itoi Shinbun - A secret base on a tree.)</ref>. Towards the end of development, the developers found the realistic face to be a little too gross<ref>"At first it wasn't an onion, but a person's face. We were using a real photo of someone's face, but it was a little too gross." ~ [[niwanetwork:Ko Takeuchi|Ko Takeuchi]], [https://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/ds/rhythm-heaven/0/1/ Iwata Asks: Rhythm Heaven 2. Rhythm Tengoku: The Arcade Game]</ref>, so it was replaced by an [[Hair Vegetables|onion]] design inspired by the Arabian music and the shape of a [[wikipedia:Mosque|mosque]]<ref>"もともと、『リズム脱毛』のキャラクターは、開発スタッフの顔写真だったのですが、『リズム脱毛』で使用される音楽がアラビアンな曲ということもあり、モスク(たまねぎ型をした寺院)をイメージしながら描いたのがあの、たまねぎキャラなんです。" (Originally, the character for "Rhythm Datsumo" was a picture of a development staff member, but as the music used in "Rhythm Datsumo" is Arabian, I drew the onion character while imagining a mosque (a temple shaped like an onion).) ~ [[niwanetwork:Ko Takeuchi|Ko Takeuchi]], [https://www.1101.com/nintendo/rythm_heaven2/16.html ほぼ日刊イトイ新聞 - 樹の上の秘密基地。] (Hobo Nikkan Itoi Shinbun - A secret base on a tree.)</ref>. | ||
===Unused Content=== | |||
Version 00, 01 and 02 all use the same graphics, but start off with a different vegetable. Version 03, 04 and 05 follow the same pattern, with the alternate color palette used in [[Rhythm Datsumo 2]]. While the first three all get used in [[Remix 8 (GBA)|Remix 8]], the last two are never used in the game. | |||
===Revisional Differences=== | |||
The turnip had its color changed from pink to brown in [[Rhythm Tengoku/Arcade|the arcade version of ''Rhythm Tengoku'']], while in ''[[Rhythm Heaven Megamix]]'', it is entirely replaced with the potato. | |||
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!{{Console|GBA|32px}} | |||
!{{Console|Arcade|32px}} | |||
!{{Console|3DS|32px}} | |||
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|[[File:Screenshot GBA Rhythm Datsumo Turnip.png|frameless|center]] | |||
|[[File:Screenshot Arcade Rhythm Datsumo Turnip.png|frameless|center]] | |||
|[[File:Screenshot 3DS Rhythm Tweezers 2 Potato.png|frameless|center]] | |||
|} | |||
==''[[Rhythm Heaven Megamix]]''== | ==''[[Rhythm Heaven Megamix]]''== | ||
{{TCRF|section=1|Rhythm Heaven Megamix/Unused Graphics#Rhythm Tweezers|Rhythm Tweezers's unused graphics|Rhythm Heaven Megamix/Unused Cues#Rhythm Tweezers|unused actions}} | |||
[[Rhythm Tweezers]] consists of the following [[Rhythm Game#Version|version]]s in ''[[Rhythm Heaven Megamix]]'': | [[Rhythm Tweezers]] consists of the following [[Rhythm Game#Version|version]]s in ''[[Rhythm Heaven Megamix]]'': | ||
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|<div style="text-align:center>ver_short</div> | |<div style="text-align:center">ver_short</div> | ||
|[[File:Screenshot 3DS Rhythm Tweezers.png| | |[[File:Screenshot 3DS Rhythm Tweezers.png|frameless|center]] | ||
|[[Rhythm Tweezers]] | |[[Rhythm Tweezers]] | ||
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|<div style="text-align:center>ver_long</div> | |<div style="text-align:center">ver_long</div> | ||
|[[File:Screenshot 3DS Rhythm Tweezers 2.png| | |[[File:Screenshot 3DS Rhythm Tweezers 2.png|frameless|center]] | ||
|[[Rhythm Tweezers 2]]<br>[[Left-Hand Remix]] | |[[Rhythm Tweezers 2]]<br>[[Left-Hand Remix]] | ||
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|<div style="text-align:center>ver_remix01</div> | |<div style="text-align:center">ver_remix01</div> | ||
|[[File:Screenshot 3DS Rhythm Tweezers 2 Machine Remix.png| | |[[File:Screenshot 3DS Rhythm Tweezers 2 Machine Remix.png|frameless|center]] | ||
|[[Machine Remix]] | |[[Machine Remix]] | ||
|} | |} | ||
===Early Builds=== | ===Early Builds=== | ||
In the Nintendo Direct 2015.1.14 build of ''[[Rhythm Heaven Megamix]]'', the background in [[Rhythm Tweezers 2]] was green with bright circles<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdJEcJRvvwo [Nintendo Direct JP<nowiki>]</nowiki> Rhythm Tengoku 3DS Annoucement]</ref>. In the final build, the green color was moved to the short version of [[Rhythm Tweezers]], and the circles were removed. These circles still exist in the game however, but are colored the same as the background, rendering them invisible. The ones in the short version of [[Rhythm Tweezers]] are replaced with squares, which are also colored the same as the background. | |||
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!Nintendo Direct 2015.1.14<br>([[Rhythm Tweezers 2]]) | |||
!Final<br>([[Rhythm Tweezers]]) | |||
!Final<br>([[Rhythm Tweezers 2]]) | |||
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|[[File:Screenshot 3DS Rhythm Tweezers 2 Trailer.png|frameless|center]] | |||
|[[File:Screenshot 3DS Rhythm Tweezers.png|frameless|center]] | |||
|[[File:Screenshot 3DS Rhythm Tweezers 2.png|frameless|center]] | |||
|} | |||
===Unused Content=== | ===Unused Content=== | ||
The onions and potatoes have tops to their sprites which go offscreen. The light bulbs in [[Machine Remix]] retain the same top as the onions they are based on, which is also offscreen. | |||
There are sprites of a shaver of some kind, as well as a carrot and some kind of cone. | |||
A sign reading {{Nihongo|ひ♥み♥っ|Secret♥}} which remains offscreen. Through modding, this can be made to hide the hairs behind the sign. There also two variations reading {{Nihongo|ふふっ|Huhu}}, hiding only the right side, and {{Nihongo|うふっ|Uhu}}, hiding only the left side. This is functionally identical to the {{Nihongo|みせてあげない♥|No Peeking♥}} sign found in [[Remix 8 (GBA)|Remix 8]] from ''[[Rhythm Tengoku]]'', although the left half and right half variants are new. | A sign reading {{Nihongo|ひ♥み♥っ|Secret♥}} which remains offscreen. Through modding, this can be made to hide the hairs behind the sign. There also two variations reading {{Nihongo|ふふっ|Huhu}}, hiding only the right side, and {{Nihongo|うふっ|Uhu}}, hiding only the left side. This is functionally identical to the {{Nihongo|みせてあげない♥|No Peeking♥}} sign found in [[Remix 8 (GBA)|Remix 8]] from ''[[Rhythm Tengoku]]'', although the left half and right half variants are new. | ||
==References== | ==References== | ||
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Latest revision as of 11:15, 15 November 2024
Rhythm Tengoku
Rhythm Datsumo consists of the following versions in Rhythm Tengoku:
No. | Image | Used in |
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00
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Rhythm Datsumo Remix 1 Remix 6 Remix 7 Remix 8 | |
01
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Remix 8 | |
02
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Remix 8 | |
03
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Rhythm Datsumo 2 | |
04
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Unused | |
05
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Unused |
Early Builds
Rhythm Datsumo was originally going to be about pulling out hairs off an old man's head, with the graphics using a photo of a development staff member's face. To express the complex psychology of it feeling good to pull out hairs cleanly despite it hurting, Masami Yone[1] gave the game an Arabian-style theme[2]. Later on, as the idea of pulling hairs off the head "wasn't suitable for everyone", it was changed to the beard instead[3]. Towards the end of development, the developers found the realistic face to be a little too gross[4], so it was replaced by an onion design inspired by the Arabian music and the shape of a mosque[5].
Unused Content
Version 00, 01 and 02 all use the same graphics, but start off with a different vegetable. Version 03, 04 and 05 follow the same pattern, with the alternate color palette used in Rhythm Datsumo 2. While the first three all get used in Remix 8, the last two are never used in the game.
Revisional Differences
The turnip had its color changed from pink to brown in the arcade version of Rhythm Tengoku, while in Rhythm Heaven Megamix, it is entirely replaced with the potato.
Rhythm Heaven Megamix
Rhythm Tweezers consists of the following versions in Rhythm Heaven Megamix:
Internal Name | Image | Used in |
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ver_short
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Rhythm Tweezers | |
ver_long
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Rhythm Tweezers 2 Left-Hand Remix | |
ver_remix01
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Machine Remix |
Early Builds
In the Nintendo Direct 2015.1.14 build of Rhythm Heaven Megamix, the background in Rhythm Tweezers 2 was green with bright circles[6]. In the final build, the green color was moved to the short version of Rhythm Tweezers, and the circles were removed. These circles still exist in the game however, but are colored the same as the background, rendering them invisible. The ones in the short version of Rhythm Tweezers are replaced with squares, which are also colored the same as the background.
Nintendo Direct 2015.1.14 (Rhythm Tweezers 2) |
Final (Rhythm Tweezers) |
Final (Rhythm Tweezers 2) |
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Unused Content
The onions and potatoes have tops to their sprites which go offscreen. The light bulbs in Machine Remix retain the same top as the onions they are based on, which is also offscreen.
There are sprites of a shaver of some kind, as well as a carrot and some kind of cone.
A sign reading ひ♥み♥っ (Secret♥?) which remains offscreen. Through modding, this can be made to hide the hairs behind the sign. There also two variations reading ふふっ (Huhu?), hiding only the right side, and うふっ (Uhu?), hiding only the left side. This is functionally identical to the みせてあげない♥ (No Peeking♥?) sign found in Remix 8 from Rhythm Tengoku, although the left half and right half variants are new.
References
- ↑ "この「リズム脱毛」は、任天堂の米さんがつくった曲だったのですが、曲を聴くとアラビアっぽいのに、どうしてヒゲを抜くか?って(笑)。 (This "Rhythm Tweezers" song was created by Mr. Yone of Nintendo, and when I listened to the song, it sounded Arabic, so I wondered why is it about pulling out hairs? (laughs).) ~ Hideki Oguro, Rhythm Tengoku Zen Kyoku-shu STAFF'S VOICE
- ↑ "初期の段階では、主役はおっちゃんだったんです。ツルツル頭に生えた毛を、もろに抜いちゃうような仕様になっていまして(笑)。毛は抜かれると痛いですけど、キレイに抜けると気持ちがよかったりしますので、そういった複雑な心理を表現したいと思って、アラビア風の怪しげな曲にしました。でも、開発の大詰めになったときに、いくらゲームでも、頭の毛を抜くのはマズイだろろうということになりまして、タマネギが主役になりました。" (In the early stages, the leading role was played by an old man. The hairs on his smooth head were designed to be plucked out (laughs). It hurts when the hair is pulled out, but it feels good when it is pulled out cleanly, so we wanted to express that kind of complex psychology, so we decided on a weird Arabic-style song. However, when it came to the final stages of development, we decided that even in a game, it would be a bad idea to pull out the hairs on the head, so the onion became the main character.) ~ Masami Yone, Rhythm Tengoku Zen Kyoku-shu STAFF'S VOICE
- ↑ "ちなみに、リズムに合わせてヒゲではなく頭髪を抜くという案もあったのですが、それだとちょっと万人向けではないということあり、その案はボツになりました。ま、当然ですね(笑)。" (Incidentally, there was also a proposal to remove the hair from the head instead of the beard to match the rhythm, but that idea was rejected because it was not suitable for everyone. Well, of course it was (laughs).) ~ Katsuya Yamano, ほぼ日刊イトイ新聞 - 樹の上の秘密基地。 (Hobo Nikkan Itoi Shinbun - A secret base on a tree.)
- ↑ "At first it wasn't an onion, but a person's face. We were using a real photo of someone's face, but it was a little too gross." ~ Ko Takeuchi, Iwata Asks: Rhythm Heaven 2. Rhythm Tengoku: The Arcade Game
- ↑ "もともと、『リズム脱毛』のキャラクターは、開発スタッフの顔写真だったのですが、『リズム脱毛』で使用される音楽がアラビアンな曲ということもあり、モスク(たまねぎ型をした寺院)をイメージしながら描いたのがあの、たまねぎキャラなんです。" (Originally, the character for "Rhythm Datsumo" was a picture of a development staff member, but as the music used in "Rhythm Datsumo" is Arabian, I drew the onion character while imagining a mosque (a temple shaped like an onion).) ~ Ko Takeuchi, ほぼ日刊イトイ新聞 - 樹の上の秘密基地。 (Hobo Nikkan Itoi Shinbun - A secret base on a tree.)
- ↑ [Nintendo Direct JP] Rhythm Tengoku 3DS Annoucement
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Barbershop Land | |||
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Barbershop Tower | |||
Songbird Tower | |||
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Planet Land | |||
The Fourth Gate | |||
Mamarin Palace | Left-Hand Tower | ||
Right-Hand Tower | |||
Tibby's Mom | |||
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