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While the developers were creating various games, they weren't initially sure how to put them together. [[generasia:Tsunku|Tsunku♂]] had originally proposed the name {{Nihongo|Rhythm IQ|リズムのIQ|Rizumu no IQ}}, but the team didn't have a concrete idea of what to do. As the [[niwanetwork:Nintendo DS|Nintendo DS]] released towards the end of 2004, the team worked on the game with the idea of a version for it as well. At the time they could not create a pleasing rhythm game that took advantage of the Touch Screen, so they focused on the Game Boy Advance version instead<ref>"ゲームボーイアドバンス用として制作をスタートした『リズム天国』ですが、ちょうどニンテンドーDSが発売されるという時期でしたので、ニンテンドーDS版も視野に入れて制作を進めることにしたんです。当然、ニンテンドーDSでやるからには、タッチパネルを使ったリズムゲームを模索しなければいけない。しかし、そのときはタッチパネルを活かした気持ちのいいリズムゲームが生まれませんでしたので深追いせずに、ゲームボーイアドバンス版だけに注力することになったんです。" ("Rhythm Tengoku" began production for the Game Boy Advance, but it was just at the time when the Nintendo DS was about to be released, so we decided to proceed with production with an eye toward a Nintendo DS version as well. Naturally, since we were going to work on the Nintendo DS, we had to find a rhythm game that used the Touch Screen. However, at that time, we could not create a pleasing rhythm game that took advantage of the Touch Screen, so we decided not to pursue it too deeply and focus only on the Game Boy Advance version.) ~ [[niwanetwork:Katsuya Yamano|Katsuya Yamano]], [https://www.1101.com/nintendo/rythm_heaven2/18.html ほぼ日刊イトイ新聞 - 樹の上の秘密基地。] (Hobo Nikkan Itoi Shinbun - A secret base on a tree.)</ref>.
While the developers were creating various games, they weren't initially sure how to put them together. [[generasia:Tsunku|Tsunku♂]] had originally proposed the name {{Nihongo|Rhythm IQ|リズムのIQ|Rizumu no IQ}}, but the team didn't have a concrete idea of what to do. As the [[niwanetwork:Nintendo DS|Nintendo DS]] released towards the end of 2004, the team worked on the game with the idea of a version for it as well. At the time they could not create a pleasing rhythm game that took advantage of the Touch Screen, so they focused on the Game Boy Advance version instead<ref>"ゲームボーイアドバンス用として制作をスタートした『リズム天国』ですが、ちょうどニンテンドーDSが発売されるという時期でしたので、ニンテンドーDS版も視野に入れて制作を進めることにしたんです。当然、ニンテンドーDSでやるからには、タッチパネルを使ったリズムゲームを模索しなければいけない。しかし、そのときはタッチパネルを活かした気持ちのいいリズムゲームが生まれませんでしたので深追いせずに、ゲームボーイアドバンス版だけに注力することになったんです。" ("Rhythm Tengoku" began production for the Game Boy Advance, but it was just at the time when the Nintendo DS was about to be released, so we decided to proceed with production with an eye toward a Nintendo DS version as well. Naturally, since we were going to work on the Nintendo DS, we had to find a rhythm game that used the Touch Screen. However, at that time, we could not create a pleasing rhythm game that took advantage of the Touch Screen, so we decided not to pursue it too deeply and focus only on the Game Boy Advance version.) ~ [[niwanetwork:Katsuya Yamano|Katsuya Yamano]], [https://www.1101.com/nintendo/rythm_heaven2/18.html ほぼ日刊イトイ新聞 - 樹の上の秘密基地。] (Hobo Nikkan Itoi Shinbun - A secret base on a tree.)</ref>.


In 2005, the game [[niwanetwork:Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day!|Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day!]] was released, and the developers tried basing the game selection on it, such as separating [[Rhythm Games]] by genre, and setting up a progression test. They decided this wouldn't be very fun, and after much discussion concluded they should use a similar style to the microgames in [[WarioWare]]<ref>"『リズム天国』の開発が行われていた最中に、『東北大学未来科学技術共同研究センター　川島隆太教授監修　脳を鍛える 大人のDSトレーニング』が発売されたのですが、おかげさまで非常に多くのユーザーに受け入れられました。で、その頃の『リズム天国』といえば、いろんなリズムゲームが徐々に出来始めているときで、それらをどういう風にまとめるか？という事を気にしていたときでもありました。実は、その１年くらい前の段階で、「リズムのIQ」というつんく♂さんからアウトプットされたキーワードでまとめていこう、というイメージがあったのですが、具体的には、まとまっていませんでした。そんなときに『脳トレ』がヒットしたことは、ちょっと、気になりました。「脳」の次は「リズム」みたいな雰囲気をどこからともなく感じながら自分達なりのまとめ方を模索しました。基礎編、応用編、トレーニングみたいなジャンルにリズムゲームを分けて、進級テストみたいなものを設ける方向は、どうか？・・・とかでも、実際それらを作ろうとしたら、例えば、トレーニングであれば、単調で退屈なことを長時間行うのが効果的っぽいが、それでは あまり楽しくなさそう・・・だとか、リズムゲームの楽しいテイストをそのまま生かして、いわゆる『メイド イン ワリオ』っぽく、まとめていくで、いいじゃないか？・・・とかいろいろ話し合った結果、“やっぱり楽しいものにしたい”ということで、今の形に落ち着きましたが、これはこれで、よかったなと思っています。" (While "Rhythm Tengoku" was being developed, "Brain Training: Adult DS Training supervised by Professor Ryuta Kawashima of Tohoku University's New Industry Creation Hatchery Center" was released, which was well received by many users. At that time, "Rhythm Tengoku" was in the midst of the development of various rhythm games, and we were concerned about how to put them all together. Actually, about a year before that, I had an image of putting them together with the keyword "Rhythm IQ", which was output by Tsunku♂, but I did not have a concrete idea of what I wanted to do. At that time, the fact that "Brain Training" became a hit was a bit, well, curious. We felt that "brain" was next to "rhythm," and we sought our own way to put it together. How about dividing the rhythm games into basic, application, and training genres, and setting up something like a progression test? But if we actually tried to make them, for example, in the case of training, it would be effective to do monotonous and boring things for a long time, but that would not be very fun...or we could just keep the fun flavor of the rhythm games and put them together in a so-called "Made in Wario" style. We discussed this and came to the conclusion that it would be a good idea to keep the fun flavor of the rhythm game. After much discussion, we decided that we wanted to make it fun, so we settled on the current form, which I am glad we did.) ~ [[niwanetwork:Katsuya Yamano|Katsuya Yamano]], [https://www.1101.com/nintendo/rythm_heaven2/08.html ほぼ日刊イトイ新聞 - 樹の上の秘密基地。] (Hobo Nikkan Itoi Shinbun - A secret base on a tree.)</ref>. Until the middle of development, the game was still titled {{Nihongo|R♂IQ (Rhythm IQ)|Ｒ♂ＩＱ（リズムアイキュー）|R♂IQ (Rizumu Aikyū)}}, but as this name was considered too confusing, the staff gathered for a meeting to decide on the title. During the meeting, one staff member suggested {{Nihongo|Rhythm Tengoku|リズム天国|Rhythm Heaven}}, which everyone agreed upon. It was learned later that the staff member fumbled their words and didn't actually intend on suggesting the name "Rhythm Tengoku". They don't remember what their suggestion was going to be<ref>"じつは開発途中までは、『Ｒ♂ＩＱ（リズムアイキュー）』という名前で呼んでいました。しかし、そのタイトルだと、ちょっとわかりにくいだろうということで、スタッフが集まり、タイトルを決める打ち合わせをすることになったんです。打ち合わせの最中、スタッフのひとりが、「『リズム天国』というタイトルは？」と言ったところ、「それ、ええやん、ええやん！」とみんなが賛同し、タイトルが決定したのですが‥‥。じつは、あとから聞いてみると、そのスタッフは『リズム天国』と言うつもりはなかったそうなんですよ。なにか、違うタイトルを言おうとして、こう、口が滑ったというか、舌がもつれたというか、「ほぼ日」的に言うと、「言いまつがって」、「‥‥『リズム天国』」とむにゃむにゃっと、言ってしまったそうなんです。そうしたら、それで決まってしまった（笑）。で、ほんとうはなんと言おうとしたのかは、憶えていないそうなので、いまだに謎なんです（笑）。" (Actually, we called it "R♂IQ (Rhythm IQ)" until we were in the middle of development. However, we thought that title would be a little confusing, so the staff gathered for a meeting to decide on a title. During the meeting, one of the staff members said, "How about 'Rhythm Tengoku'?" Everyone agreed, and the title was decided. But later, I learned that the staff had no intention of calling it "Rhythm Tengoku". They were going to say something different, but they slipped up, or got their tongues tangled, or in the "I'm about to say" way of speaking, they said "...'Rhythm Tengoku'" in a very muddled way. And that's how it was decided (laughs). But they don't remember what they were really going to say, so it is still a mystery to this day (laughs). ~ [[niwanetwork:Yoshio Sakamoto|Yoshio Sakamoto]], [https://www.1101.com/nintendo/rythm_heaven2/11.html ほぼ日刊イトイ新聞 - 樹の上の秘密基地。] (Hobo Nikkan Itoi Shinbun - A secret base on a tree.)</ref>. The original title was later referenced in [[Ringside]], where the TV station broadcasting the interview is known as "RIQ-TV" in most versions, or "KRIQ" in the English versions.
In 2005, the game [[niwanetwork:Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day!|Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day!]] was released, and the developers tried basing the game selection on it, such as separating [[Rhythm Games]] by genre, and setting up a progression test. They decided this wouldn't be very fun, and after much discussion concluded they should use a similar style to the microgames in [[WarioWare]]<ref>"『リズム天国』の開発が行われていた最中に、『東北大学未来科学技術共同研究センター　川島隆太教授監修　脳を鍛える 大人のDSトレーニング』が発売されたのですが、おかげさまで非常に多くのユーザーに受け入れられました。で、その頃の『リズム天国』といえば、いろんなリズムゲームが徐々に出来始めているときで、それらをどういう風にまとめるか？という事を気にしていたときでもありました。実は、その１年くらい前の段階で、「リズムのIQ」というつんく♂さんからアウトプットされたキーワードでまとめていこう、というイメージがあったのですが、具体的には、まとまっていませんでした。そんなときに『脳トレ』がヒットしたことは、ちょっと、気になりました。「脳」の次は「リズム」みたいな雰囲気をどこからともなく感じながら自分達なりのまとめ方を模索しました。基礎編、応用編、トレーニングみたいなジャンルにリズムゲームを分けて、進級テストみたいなものを設ける方向は、どうか？・・・とかでも、実際それらを作ろうとしたら、例えば、トレーニングであれば、単調で退屈なことを長時間行うのが効果的っぽいが、それでは あまり楽しくなさそう・・・だとか、リズムゲームの楽しいテイストをそのまま生かして、いわゆる『メイド イン ワリオ』っぽく、まとめていくで、いいじゃないか？・・・とかいろいろ話し合った結果、“やっぱり楽しいものにしたい”ということで、今の形に落ち着きましたが、これはこれで、よかったなと思っています。" (While "Rhythm Tengoku" was being developed, "Brain Training: Adult DS Training supervised by Professor Ryuta Kawashima of Tohoku University's New Industry Creation Hatchery Center" was released, which was well received by many users. At that time, "Rhythm Tengoku" was in the midst of the development of various rhythm games, and we were concerned about how to put them all together. Actually, about a year before that, I had an image of putting them together with the keyword "Rhythm IQ", which was output by Tsunku♂, but I did not have a concrete idea of what I wanted to do. At that time, the fact that "Brain Training" became a hit was a bit, well, curious. We felt that "brain" was next to "rhythm," and we sought our own way to put it together. How about dividing the rhythm games into basic, application, and training genres, and setting up something like a progression test? But if we actually tried to make them, for example, in the case of training, it would be effective to do monotonous and boring things for a long time, but that would not be very fun...or we could just keep the fun flavor of the rhythm games and put them together in a so-called "Made in Wario" style. We discussed this and came to the conclusion that it would be a good idea to keep the fun flavor of the rhythm game. After much discussion, we decided that we wanted to make it fun, so we settled on the current form, which I am glad we did.) ~ [[niwanetwork:Katsuya Yamano|Katsuya Yamano]], [https://www.1101.com/nintendo/rythm_heaven2/08.html ほぼ日刊イトイ新聞 - 樹の上の秘密基地。] (Hobo Nikkan Itoi Shinbun - A secret base on a tree.)</ref>. Until the middle of development, the game was still titled {{Nihongo|R♂IQ (Rhythm IQ)|Ｒ♂ＩＱ（リズムアイキュー）|R♂IQ (Rizumu Aikyū}}, but as this name was considered too confusing, the staff gathered for a meeting to decide on the title. During the meeting, one staff member suggested {{Nihongo|Rhythm Tengoku|リズム天国|Rhythm Heaven}}, which everyone agreed upon. It was learned later that the staff member fumbled their words and didn't actually intend on suggesting the name "Rhythm Tengoku". They don't remember what their suggestion was going to be<ref>"じつは開発途中までは、『Ｒ♂ＩＱ（リズムアイキュー）』という名前で呼んでいました。しかし、そのタイトルだと、ちょっとわかりにくいだろうということで、スタッフが集まり、タイトルを決める打ち合わせをすることになったんです。打ち合わせの最中、スタッフのひとりが、「『リズム天国』というタイトルは？」と言ったところ、「それ、ええやん、ええやん！」とみんなが賛同し、タイトルが決定したのですが‥‥。じつは、あとから聞いてみると、そのスタッフは『リズム天国』と言うつもりはなかったそうなんですよ。なにか、違うタイトルを言おうとして、こう、口が滑ったというか、舌がもつれたというか、「ほぼ日」的に言うと、「言いまつがって」、「‥‥『リズム天国』」とむにゃむにゃっと、言ってしまったそうなんです。そうしたら、それで決まってしまった（笑）。で、ほんとうはなんと言おうとしたのかは、憶えていないそうなので、いまだに謎なんです（笑）。" (Actually, we called it "R♂IQ (Rhythm IQ)" until we were in the middle of development. However, we thought that title would be a little confusing, so the staff gathered for a meeting to decide on a title. During the meeting, one of the staff members said, "How about 'Rhythm Tengoku'?" Everyone agreed, and the title was decided. But later, I learned that the staff had no intention of calling it "Rhythm Tengoku". They were going to say something different, but they slipped up, or got their tongues tangled, or in the "I'm about to say" way of speaking, they said "...'Rhythm Tengoku'" in a very muddled way. And that's how it was decided (laughs). But they don't remember what they were really going to say, so it is still a mystery to this day (laughs). ~ [[niwanetwork:Yoshio Sakamoto|Yoshio Sakamoto]], [https://www.1101.com/nintendo/rythm_heaven2/11.html ほぼ日刊イトイ新聞 - 樹の上の秘密基地。] (Hobo Nikkan Itoi Shinbun - A secret base on a tree.)</ref>. The original title was later referenced in [[Ringside]], where the TV station broadcasting the interview is known as "RIQ-TV" in most versions, or "KRIQ" in the English versions.


Over 20 different games were [[List of Scrapped Rhythm Games|removed]] from the final game, most of which are only known by their titles, though some have leftover sound effects. There is [[Tanuki & Monkey|one game]] that exists unused in a fully playable form in the final game, though it goes unnamed there<ref>"ボタンを押すとキャラクターが棒を振って、さらにボタンを離すとその振った棒を戻す。その棒の動きで、ものを「しばく」というリズムゲームがあったんです。 しかし、リズムに合わせてボタンを離すという行為が意外とシビアでわかりにくかったんですよね。「これは遊んでいても気持ちよくないだろう」ということで、製品版には入れずにボツにしたんです。ネタとしてはおもしろかったんですけど（笑）。 ちなみにボツになったリズムゲームは全部で20個以上もあるのですが、そのなかには、このようなタイトルの作品がありました。" (When the button is pressed, the character swings a stick, and when the button is released, the swinging stick is returned. There was a rhythm game in which you "strike" things with the movement of the stick. However, the act of releasing the button in time with the rhythm was unexpectedly severe and difficult to understand. We decided not to include it in the production version because we thought it wouldn't be pleasant to play. It was interesting as a story (laughs). Incidentally, there are more than 20 rejected rhythm games in total, among which there was one with a title like this.) ~ [[niwanetwork:Kazuyoshi Osawa|Kazuyoshi Osawa]], [https://www.1101.com/nintendo/rythm_heaven2/07.html ほぼ日刊イトイ新聞 - 樹の上の秘密基地。] (Hobo Nikkan Itoi Shinbun - A secret base on a tree.)</ref>. Before release, the game was playtested, and the developers found that people of all ages responded similarly to each [[Rhythm Game]], though they were surprised to see that [[Kokuhaku Machine]] was the most popular game among young girls<ref>"『リズム天国』の発売まえに、サンプルソフトをユーザーの方に遊んでいただいたんです。その結果、だいたいどの年齢層の方も同じようなリズムゲームに反応を示したんですけど、なぜか『告白マシーン』だけは、女子小中学生の反応がダントツに良かったんです。『告白マシーン』を面白いと感じてくれました。意外にもこういうのが好きなんだと驚きました。" (Before the release of "Rhythm Tengoku," we had users play a sample of the software. The results showed that people of all ages showed similar reactions to rhythm games, but for some reason, "Kokuhaku Machine" was the most popular among elementary and junior high school girls. They found "Kokuhaku Machine" interesting. I was surprised that they liked this kind of game.) ~ [[niwanetwork:Kazuyoshi Osawa|Kazuyoshi Osawa]], [https://www.1101.com/nintendo/rythm_heaven2/09.html ほぼ日刊イトイ新聞 - 樹の上の秘密基地。] (Hobo Nikkan Itoi Shinbun - A secret base on a tree.)</ref>.
Over 20 different games were [[List of Scrapped Rhythm Games|removed]] from the final game, most of which are only known by their titles, though some have leftover sound effects. There is [[Tanuki & Monkey|one game]] that exists unused in a fully playable form in the final game, though it goes unnamed there<ref>"ボタンを押すとキャラクターが棒を振って、さらにボタンを離すとその振った棒を戻す。その棒の動きで、ものを「しばく」というリズムゲームがあったんです。 しかし、リズムに合わせてボタンを離すという行為が意外とシビアでわかりにくかったんですよね。「これは遊んでいても気持ちよくないだろう」ということで、製品版には入れずにボツにしたんです。ネタとしてはおもしろかったんですけど（笑）。 ちなみにボツになったリズムゲームは全部で20個以上もあるのですが、そのなかには、このようなタイトルの作品がありました。" (When the button is pressed, the character swings a stick, and when the button is released, the swinging stick is returned. There was a rhythm game in which you "strike" things with the movement of the stick. However, the act of releasing the button in time with the rhythm was unexpectedly severe and difficult to understand. We decided not to include it in the production version because we thought it wouldn't be pleasant to play. It was interesting as a story (laughs). Incidentally, there are more than 20 rejected rhythm games in total, among which there was one with a title like this.) ~ [[niwanetwork:Kazuyoshi Osawa|Kazuyoshi Osawa]], [https://www.1101.com/nintendo/rythm_heaven2/07.html ほぼ日刊イトイ新聞 - 樹の上の秘密基地。] (Hobo Nikkan Itoi Shinbun - A secret base on a tree.)</ref>. Before release, the game was playtested, and the developers found that people of all ages responded similarly to each [[Rhythm Game]], though they were surprised to see that [[Kokuhaku Machine]] was the most popular game among young girls<ref>"『リズム天国』の発売まえに、サンプルソフトをユーザーの方に遊んでいただいたんです。その結果、だいたいどの年齢層の方も同じようなリズムゲームに反応を示したんですけど、なぜか『告白マシーン』だけは、女子小中学生の反応がダントツに良かったんです。『告白マシーン』を面白いと感じてくれました。意外にもこういうのが好きなんだと驚きました。" (Before the release of "Rhythm Tengoku," we had users play a sample of the software. The results showed that people of all ages showed similar reactions to rhythm games, but for some reason, "Kokuhaku Machine" was the most popular among elementary and junior high school girls. They found "Kokuhaku Machine" interesting. I was surprised that they liked this kind of game.) ~ [[niwanetwork:Kazuyoshi Osawa|Kazuyoshi Osawa]], [https://www.1101.com/nintendo/rythm_heaven2/09.html ほぼ日刊イトイ新聞 - 樹の上の秘密基地。] (Hobo Nikkan Itoi Shinbun - A secret base on a tree.)</ref>.
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