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{{Interview|the second volume of the Iwata Asks interview for ''[[Rhythm Heaven]]'', which was originally posted [https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/interview/ylzj/vol2/index.html here] on July 11, 2008. A translation has been provided below.}}
{{LargePage}}{{Interview|the second volume of the Iwata Asks interview for ''[[Rhythm Heaven]]'', which was originally posted [https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/interview/ylzj/vol2/index.html here] on July 11, 2008. A translation has been provided below.}}
==Even if it's a Dead End==
==Even if it's a Dead End==
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!colspan="2" align="left"|1. ダメもとでアプローチ
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!style="width:40%" align="left" valign="top"|わかりました。<br>ま、ぼくも、けっこうゲームが好きで、<br>いろんなゲームをやらせていただいたんです。<br>いわゆる「音ゲー」というものが流行りましたよね。<br>音楽に合わせて、ボタンを押していくという。<br>ぼくもいくつかやってみたんですけど、<br>音楽をやっている立場からすると、<br>どうもフラストレーションを感じるんです。<br>「ここがボタンを押すところ？」という感じで。<br>つまり、あれは、リズムにのるというよりも、<br>けっきょく、目押しをしてるんですよね。
!style="width:40%" align="left" valign="top"|わかりました。<br>ま、ぼくも、けっこうゲームが好きで、<br>いろんなゲームをやらせていただいたんです。<br>いわゆる「音ゲー」というものが流行りましたよね。<br>音楽に合わせて、ボタンを押していくという。<br>ぼくもいくつかやってみたんですけど、<br>音楽をやっている立場からすると、<br>どうもフラストレーションを感じるんです。<br>「ここがボタンを押すところ？」という感じで。<br>つまり、あれは、リズムにのるというよりも、<br>けっきょく、目押しをしてるんですよね。
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!style="width:40%" align="left" valign="top"|Of course. Well, I like games quite a bit, and I've played a lot of different games. So-called "rhythm games" were very popular, weren't they? You press buttons in time with the music. I've tried a few of them, but from a musician's perspective, I find them frustrating. I felt like, "Is this the place to press a button?" In other words, rather than following the rhythm, you end up pressing buttons by eye.
!style="width:40%" align="left" valign="top"|Of course. Well, I like games quite a bit, and I've played a lot of different games. So-called "rhythm games" were very popular, weren't they? You press buttons in time with the music. I've tried a few of them, but from a musician's perspective, I find them frustrating. I felt like, "Am I supposed to press a button here?" In other words, rather than following the rhythm, you end up pressing buttons by eye.
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==Training your Sense of Rhythm==
==Training your Sense of Rhythm==
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!style="width:40%" align="left" valign="top"|そうなんです。<br>１、２、３、４、１、２、３、４‥‥と<br>続いてるんだったらできるんですけど、<br>ゼロから１にしようとするときに、<br>おかしくなっちゃうんです。<br>なわとびに入れなかったり、<br>エスカレーターに乗れなかったりするのと<br>同じような感覚で。
!style="width:40%" align="left" valign="top"|そうなんです。<br>１、２、３、４、１、２、３、４‥‥と<br>続いてるんだったらできるんですけど、<br>ゼロから１にしようとするときに、<br>おかしくなっちゃうんです。<br>なわとびに入れなかったり、<br>エスカレーターに乗れなかったりするのと<br>同じような感覚で。
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!style="width:40%" align="left" valign="top"|That's right. I can do it if it's 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4... but when I try to go from 0 to 1, things go wrong. It's the same feeling as when you can't jump rope or get on an escalator.
!style="width:40%" align="left" valign="top"|That's right. I can do it if it's 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4… but when I try to go from 0 to 1, things go wrong. It's the same feeling as when you can't jump rope or get on an escalator.
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!style="width:40%" align="left" valign="top"|Hmm, I see.
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==What is Flow?==
==What is Flow?==
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==Through Dance Lessons==
==Through Dance Lessons==
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==Satisfying Accents==
==Satisfying Accents==
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==Fortunate Encounter==
==Fortunate Encounter==
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!colspan="2" align="left"|6. 幸運な出会い
!colspan="2" align="left"|6. 幸運な出会い
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!style="width:10%" align="right" valign="top"|{{Nihongo|岩田}}
!style="width:10%" align="right" valign="top"|{{Nihongo|岩田}}
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!style="width:10%" align="right" valign="top"|{{Nihongo|つんく♂}}
!style="width:10%" align="right" valign="top"|{{Nihongo|つんく♂}}
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!style="width:10%" align="right" valign="top"|{{Nihongo|岩田}}
!style="width:10%" align="right" valign="top"|{{Nihongo|岩田}}
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