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|[[Rhythm Tweezers 2|Rhythm Datsumo]]<br>[[Remix 1 (GBA)|Remix 1]]<br>[[Remix 6 (GBA)|Remix 6]]<br>[[Remix 7 (GBA)|Remix 7]]<br>[[Remix 8 (GBA)|Remix 8]]
|[[Rhythm Tweezers 2|Rhythm Datsumo]]<br>[[Remix 1 (GBA)|Remix 1]]<br>[[Remix 6 (GBA)|Remix 6]]<br>[[Remix 7 (GBA)|Remix 7]]<br>[[Remix 8 (GBA)|Remix 8]]
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|[[Remix 8 (GBA)|Remix 8]]
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|[[File:Screenshot GBA Rhythm Datsumo 2.png|thumb|center]]
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|[[File:Screenshot GBA Rhythm Datsumo 2 Potato.png|thumb|center]]
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===Early Ideas===
===Early Ideas===
[[Rhythm Tweezers 2|Rhythm Datsumo]] was originally going to be about pulling out hairs off an old man's head, with the graphics using a photo of a development staff member's face. To express the complex psychology of it feeling good to pull out hairs cleanly despite it hurting, the game was given an Arabian-style theme<ref>"初期の段階では、主役はおっちゃんだったんです。ツルツル頭に生えた毛を、もろに抜いちゃうような仕様になっていまして(笑)。毛は抜かれると痛いですけど、キレイに抜けると気持ちがよかったりしますので、そういった複雑な心理を表現したいと思って、アラビア風の怪しげな曲にしました。でも、開発の大詰めになったときに、いくらゲームでも、頭の毛を抜くのはマズイだろろうということになりまして、タマネギが主役になりました。" (In the early stages, the leading role was played by an old man. The hairs on his smooth head were designed to be plucked out (laughs). It hurts when the hair is pulled out, but it feels good when it is pulled out cleanly, so we wanted to express that kind of complex psychology, so we decided on a weird Arabic-style song. However, when it came to the final stages of development, we decided that even in a game, it would be a bad idea to pull out the hairs on the head, so the onion became the main character.) ~ [[niwanetwork:Masami Yone|Masami Yone]], ''[[Rhythm Tengoku Zen Kyoku-shu]]'' STAFF'S VOICE</ref>. Later on, as the idea of pulling hairs off the head "wasn't suitable for everyone", it was changed to the beard instead<ref>"ちなみに、リズムに合わせてヒゲではなく頭髪を抜くという案もあったのですが、それだとちょっと万人向けではないということあり、その案はボツになりました。ま、当然ですね(笑)。" (Incidentally, there was also a proposal to remove the hair from the head instead of the beard to match the rhythm, but that idea was rejected because it was not suitable for everyone. Well, of course it was (laughs).) ~ [[niwanetwork:Katsuya Yamano|Katsuya Yamano]], [https://www.1101.com/nintendo/rythm_heaven2/16.html ほぼ日刊イトイ新聞 - 樹の上の秘密基地。] (Hobo Nikkan Itoi Shinbun - A secret base on a tree.)</ref>. Towards the end of development, the developers found the realistic face to be a little too gross<ref>"At first it wasn't an onion, but a person's face. We were using a real photo of someone's face, but it was a little too gross." ~ [[niwanetwork:Ko Takeuchi|Ko Takeuchi]], [http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/ds/rhythm-heaven/0/1 Iwata Asks: Rhythm Heaven 2. Rhythm Tengoku: The Arcade Game]</ref>, so it was replaced by an [[Hair Vegetables|onion]] design inspired by the Arabian music and the shape of a [[wikipedia:Mosque|mosque]]<ref>"もともと、『リズム脱毛』のキャラクターは、開発スタッフの顔写真だったのですが、『リズム脱毛』で使用される音楽がアラビアンな曲ということもあり、モスク(たまねぎ型をした寺院)をイメージしながら描いたのがあの、たまねぎキャラなんです。" (Originally, the character for "Rhythm Datsumo" was a picture of a development staff member, but as the music used in "Rhythm Datsumo" is Arabian, I drew the onion character while imagining a mosque (a temple shaped like an onion).) ~ [[niwanetwork:Ko Takeuchi|Ko Takeuchi]], [https://www.1101.com/nintendo/rythm_heaven2/16.html ほぼ日刊イトイ新聞 - 樹の上の秘密基地。] (Hobo Nikkan Itoi Shinbun - A secret base on a tree.)</ref>.
[[Rhythm Tweezers 2|Rhythm Datsumo]] was originally going to be about pulling out hairs off an old man's head, with the graphics using a photo of a development staff member's face. To express the complex psychology of it feeling good to pull out hairs cleanly despite it hurting, the game was given an Arabian-style theme<ref>"初期の段階では、主役はおっちゃんだったんです。ツルツル頭に生えた毛を、もろに抜いちゃうような仕様になっていまして(笑)。毛は抜かれると痛いですけど、キレイに抜けると気持ちがよかったりしますので、そういった複雑な心理を表現したいと思って、アラビア風の怪しげな曲にしました。でも、開発の大詰めになったときに、いくらゲームでも、頭の毛を抜くのはマズイだろろうということになりまして、タマネギが主役になりました。" (In the early stages, the leading role was played by an old man. The hairs on his smooth head were designed to be plucked out (laughs). It hurts when the hair is pulled out, but it feels good when it is pulled out cleanly, so we wanted to express that kind of complex psychology, so we decided on a weird Arabic-style song. However, when it came to the final stages of development, we decided that even in a game, it would be a bad idea to pull out the hairs on the head, so the onion became the main character.) ~ [[niwanetwork:Masami Yone|Masami Yone]], ''[[Rhythm Tengoku Zen Kyoku-shu]]'' STAFF'S VOICE</ref>. Later on, as the idea of pulling hairs off the head "wasn't suitable for everyone", it was changed to the beard instead<ref>"ちなみに、リズムに合わせてヒゲではなく頭髪を抜くという案もあったのですが、それだとちょっと万人向けではないということあり、その案はボツになりました。ま、当然ですね(笑)。" (Incidentally, there was also a proposal to remove the hair from the head instead of the beard to match the rhythm, but that idea was rejected because it was not suitable for everyone. Well, of course it was (laughs).) ~ [[niwanetwork:Katsuya Yamano|Katsuya Yamano]], [https://www.1101.com/nintendo/rythm_heaven2/16.html ほぼ日刊イトイ新聞 - 樹の上の秘密基地。] (Hobo Nikkan Itoi Shinbun - A secret base on a tree.)</ref>. Towards the end of development, the developers found the realistic face to be a little too gross<ref>"At first it wasn't an onion, but a person's face. We were using a real photo of someone's face, but it was a little too gross." ~ [[niwanetwork:Ko Takeuchi|Ko Takeuchi]], [http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/ds/rhythm-heaven/0/1 Iwata Asks: Rhythm Heaven 2. Rhythm Tengoku: The Arcade Game]</ref>, so it was replaced by an [[Hair Vegetables|onion]] design inspired by the Arabian music and the shape of a [[wikipedia:Mosque|mosque]]<ref>"もともと、『リズム脱毛』のキャラクターは、開発スタッフの顔写真だったのですが、『リズム脱毛』で使用される音楽がアラビアンな曲ということもあり、モスク(たまねぎ型をした寺院)をイメージしながら描いたのがあの、たまねぎキャラなんです。" (Originally, the character for "Rhythm Datsumo" was a picture of a development staff member, but as the music used in "Rhythm Datsumo" is Arabian, I drew the onion character while imagining a mosque (a temple shaped like an onion).) ~ [[niwanetwork:Ko Takeuchi|Ko Takeuchi]], [https://www.1101.com/nintendo/rythm_heaven2/16.html ほぼ日刊イトイ新聞 - 樹の上の秘密基地。] (Hobo Nikkan Itoi Shinbun - A secret base on a tree.)</ref>.
===Miscellaneous===
==''[[Rhythm Heaven Megamix]]''==
==''[[Rhythm Heaven Megamix]]''==
[[Rhythm Tweezers]] consists of the following [[Rhythm Game#Version|version]]s in ''[[Rhythm Heaven Megamix]]'':
[[Rhythm Tweezers]] consists of the following [[Rhythm Game#Version|version]]s in ''[[Rhythm Heaven Megamix]]'':
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|[[Rhythm Tweezers 2]]<br>[[Left-Hand Remix]]
|[[Rhythm Tweezers 2]]<br>[[Left-Hand Remix]]
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===Early Builds===
===Early Builds===
[[File:Screenshot 3DS Rhythm Tweezers 2 Trailer.png|thumb]]In the Nintendo Direct 2015.1.14 build of ''[[Rhythm Heaven Megamix]]'', the background in [[Rhythm Tweezers 2]] was green with bright circles<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdJEcJRvvwo [Nintendo Direct JP<nowiki>]</nowiki> Rhythm Tengoku 3DS Annoucement]</ref>. In the final build, the green color was moved to the short version of [[Rhythm Tweezers]], and the circles were removed. These circles still exist in the game however, but are colored the same as the background, rendering them invisible. The ones in the short version of [[Rhythm Tweezers]] are replaced with squares, which are also colored the same as the background.
In the Nintendo Direct 2015.1.14 build of ''[[Rhythm Heaven Megamix]]'', the background in [[Rhythm Tweezers 2]] was green with bright circles<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdJEcJRvvwo [Nintendo Direct JP<nowiki>]</nowiki> Rhythm Tengoku 3DS Annoucement]</ref>. In the final build, the green color was moved to the short version of [[Rhythm Tweezers]], and the circles were removed. These circles still exist in the game however, but are colored the same as the background, rendering them invisible. The ones in the short version of [[Rhythm Tweezers]] are replaced with squares, which are also colored the same as the background.
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===Unused Content===
===Unused Content===
The onions and potatoes have tops to their sprites which go offscreen. The light bulbs in [[Machine Remix]] retain the same top as the onions they are based on, which is also offscreen.
There are sprites of a shaver of some kind, as well as a carrot and some kind of cone.
There are sprites of a shaver of some kind, as well as a carrot and some kind of cone.


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The turnip had its color changed from pink to brown in [[Rhythm Tengoku/Arcade|the arcade version of ''Rhythm Tengoku'']], while in ''[[Rhythm Heaven Megamix]]'', it is entirely replaced with the potato.
The turnip had its color changed from pink to brown in [[Rhythm Tengoku/Arcade|the arcade version of ''Rhythm Tengoku'']], while in ''[[Rhythm Heaven Megamix]]'', it is entirely replaced with the potato.
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|[[File:Screenshot GBA Rhythm Datsumo Turnip.png|frameless|center]]
|[[File:Screenshot Arcade Rhythm Datsumo Turnip.png|thumb|center]]
|[[File:Screenshot Arcade Rhythm Datsumo Turnip.png|frameless|center]]
|[[File:Screenshot 3DS Rhythm Tweezers 2 Potato.png|thumb|center]]
|[[File:Screenshot 3DS Rhythm Tweezers 2 Potato.png|frameless|center]]
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==References==
==References==
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