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[[Rhythm Tweezers 2|Rhythm Datsumo]] was originally going to be about pulling out hairs off an old man's head, with the graphics using a photo of a development staff member's face. To express the complex psychology of it feeling good to pull out hairs cleanly despite it hurting, the game was given an Arabian-style theme<ref>"初期の段階では、主役はおっちゃんだったんです。ツルツル頭に生えた毛を、もろに抜いちゃうような仕様になっていまして（笑）。毛は抜かれると痛いですけど、キレイに抜けると気持ちがよかったりしますので、そういった複雑な心理を表現したいと思って、アラビア風の怪しげな曲にしました。でも、開発の大詰めになったときに、いくらゲームでも、頭の毛を抜くのはマズイだろろうということになりまして、タマネギが主役になりました。" (In the early stages, the leading role was played by an old man. The hairs on his smooth head were designed to be plucked out (laughs). It hurts when the hair is pulled out, but it feels good when it is pulled out cleanly, so we wanted to express that kind of complex psychology, so we decided on a weird Arabic-style song. However, when it came to the final stages of development, we decided that even in a game, it would be a bad idea to pull out the hairs on the head, so the onion became the main character.) ~ [[niwanetwork:Masami Yone|Masami Yone]], ''[[Rhythm Tengoku Zen Kyoku-shu]]'' STAFF'S VOICE</ref>. Later on, as the idea of pulling hairs off the head "wasn't suitable for everyone", it was changed to the beard instead<ref>"ちなみに、リズムに合わせてヒゲではなく頭髪を抜くという案もあったのですが、それだとちょっと万人向けではないということあり、その案はボツになりました。ま、当然ですね（笑）。" (Incidentally, there was also a proposal to remove the hair from the head instead of the beard to match the rhythm, but that idea was rejected because it was not suitable for everyone. Well, of course it was (laughs).) ~ [[niwanetwork:Katsuya Yamano|Katsuya Yamano]], [https://www.1101.com/nintendo/rythm_heaven2/16.html ほぼ日刊イトイ新聞 - 樹の上の秘密基地。] (Hobo Nikkan Itoi Shinbun - A secret base on a tree.)</ref>. Towards the end of development, the developers found the realistic face to be a little too gross<ref>"At first it wasn't an onion, but a person's face. We were using a real photo of someone's face, but it was a little too gross." ~ [[niwanetwork:Ko Takeuchi|Ko Takeuchi]], [http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/ds/rhythm-heaven/0/1 Iwata Asks: Rhythm Heaven 2. Rhythm Tengoku: The Arcade Game]</ref>, so it was replaced by an [[Hair Vegetables|onion]] design inspired by the Arabian music and the shape of a [[wikipedia:Mosque|mosque]]<ref>"もともと、『リズム脱毛』のキャラクターは、開発スタッフの顔写真だったのですが、『リズム脱毛』で使用される音楽がアラビアンな曲ということもあり、モスク（たまねぎ型をした寺院）をイメージしながら描いたのがあの、たまねぎキャラなんです。" (Originally, the character for "Rhythm Datsumo" was a picture of a development staff member, but as the music used in "Rhythm Datsumo" is Arabian, I drew the onion character while imagining a mosque (a temple shaped like an onion).) ~ [[niwanetwork:Ko Takeuchi|Ko Takeuchi]], [https://www.1101.com/nintendo/rythm_heaven2/16.html ほぼ日刊イトイ新聞 - 樹の上の秘密基地。] (Hobo Nikkan Itoi Shinbun - A secret base on a tree.)</ref>.
[[Rhythm Tweezers 2|Rhythm Datsumo]] was originally going to be about pulling out hairs off an old man's head, with the graphics using a photo of a development staff member's face. To express the complex psychology of it feeling good to pull out hairs cleanly despite it hurting, the game was given an Arabian-style theme<ref>"初期の段階では、主役はおっちゃんだったんです。ツルツル頭に生えた毛を、もろに抜いちゃうような仕様になっていまして（笑）。毛は抜かれると痛いですけど、キレイに抜けると気持ちがよかったりしますので、そういった複雑な心理を表現したいと思って、アラビア風の怪しげな曲にしました。でも、開発の大詰めになったときに、いくらゲームでも、頭の毛を抜くのはマズイだろろうということになりまして、タマネギが主役になりました。" (In the early stages, the leading role was played by an old man. The hairs on his smooth head were designed to be plucked out (laughs). It hurts when the hair is pulled out, but it feels good when it is pulled out cleanly, so we wanted to express that kind of complex psychology, so we decided on a weird Arabic-style song. However, when it came to the final stages of development, we decided that even in a game, it would be a bad idea to pull out the hairs on the head, so the onion became the main character.) ~ [[niwanetwork:Masami Yone|Masami Yone]], ''[[Rhythm Tengoku Zen Kyoku-shu]]'' STAFF'S VOICE</ref>. Later on, as the idea of pulling hairs off the head "wasn't suitable for everyone", it was changed to the beard instead<ref>"ちなみに、リズムに合わせてヒゲではなく頭髪を抜くという案もあったのですが、それだとちょっと万人向けではないということあり、その案はボツになりました。ま、当然ですね（笑）。" (Incidentally, there was also a proposal to remove the hair from the head instead of the beard to match the rhythm, but that idea was rejected because it was not suitable for everyone. Well, of course it was (laughs).) ~ [[niwanetwork:Katsuya Yamano|Katsuya Yamano]], [https://www.1101.com/nintendo/rythm_heaven2/16.html ほぼ日刊イトイ新聞 - 樹の上の秘密基地。] (Hobo Nikkan Itoi Shinbun - A secret base on a tree.)</ref>. Towards the end of development, the developers found the realistic face to be a little too gross<ref>"At first it wasn't an onion, but a person's face. We were using a real photo of someone's face, but it was a little too gross." ~ [[niwanetwork:Ko Takeuchi|Ko Takeuchi]], [http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/ds/rhythm-heaven/0/1 Iwata Asks: Rhythm Heaven 2. Rhythm Tengoku: The Arcade Game]</ref>, so it was replaced by an [[Hair Vegetables|onion]] design inspired by the Arabian music and the shape of a [[wikipedia:Mosque|mosque]]<ref>"もともと、『リズム脱毛』のキャラクターは、開発スタッフの顔写真だったのですが、『リズム脱毛』で使用される音楽がアラビアンな曲ということもあり、モスク（たまねぎ型をした寺院）をイメージしながら描いたのがあの、たまねぎキャラなんです。" (Originally, the character for "Rhythm Datsumo" was a picture of a development staff member, but as the music used in "Rhythm Datsumo" is Arabian, I drew the onion character while imagining a mosque (a temple shaped like an onion).) ~ [[niwanetwork:Ko Takeuchi|Ko Takeuchi]], [https://www.1101.com/nintendo/rythm_heaven2/16.html ほぼ日刊イトイ新聞 - 樹の上の秘密基地。] (Hobo Nikkan Itoi Shinbun - A secret base on a tree.)</ref>.
===Miscellaneous===
===Miscellaneous===
Version 00, 01 and 02 all use the same graphics, but start off with a different vegetable. Version 03, 04 and 05 follow the same pattern, with the alternate color palette used in [[Rhythm Datsumo 2]]. While the first three all get used in [[Remix 8 (GBA)|Remix 8]], the last two are never used in the game.
==''[[Rhythm Heaven Megamix]]''==
==''[[Rhythm Heaven Megamix]]''==
[[Rhythm Tweezers]] consists of the following [[Rhythm Game#Version|version]]s in ''[[Rhythm Heaven Megamix]]'':
[[Rhythm Tweezers]] consists of the following [[Rhythm Game#Version|version]]s in ''[[Rhythm Heaven Megamix]]'':

Revision as of 17:31, 15 April 2024

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Rhythm Tengoku

Rhythm Datsumo consists of the following versions in Rhythm Tengoku:

No. Image Used in
00
Screenshot GBA Rhythm Datsumo.png
 Rhythm Datsumo
Remix 1
Remix 6
Remix 7
Remix 8
01
Screenshot GBA Rhythm Datsumo Turnip.png
 Remix 8
02
Screenshot GBA Rhythm Datsumo Remix 8.png
 Remix 8
03
Screenshot GBA Rhythm Datsumo 2.png
 Rhythm Datsumo 2
04
Screenshot GBA Rhythm Datsumo 2 Turnip.png
 Unused
05
Screenshot GBA Rhythm Datsumo 2 Potato.png
 Unused

Early Ideas

Rhythm Datsumo was originally going to be about pulling out hairs off an old man's head, with the graphics using a photo of a development staff member's face. To express the complex psychology of it feeling good to pull out hairs cleanly despite it hurting, the game was given an Arabian-style theme[1]. Later on, as the idea of pulling hairs off the head "wasn't suitable for everyone", it was changed to the beard instead[2]. Towards the end of development, the developers found the realistic face to be a little too gross[3], so it was replaced by an onion design inspired by the Arabian music and the shape of a mosque[4].

Miscellaneous

Version 00, 01 and 02 all use the same graphics, but start off with a different vegetable. Version 03, 04 and 05 follow the same pattern, with the alternate color palette used in Rhythm Datsumo 2. While the first three all get used in Remix 8, the last two are never used in the game.

Rhythm Heaven Megamix

Rhythm Tweezers consists of the following versions in Rhythm Heaven Megamix:

Internal Name Image Used in
ver_short
Screenshot 3DS Rhythm Tweezers.png
 Rhythm Tweezers
ver_long
Screenshot 3DS Rhythm Tweezers 2.png
 Rhythm Tweezers 2
Left-Hand Remix
ver_remix01
Screenshot 3DS Rhythm Tweezers 2 Machine Remix.png
 Machine Remix

Early Builds

In the Nintendo Direct 2015.1.14 build of Rhythm Heaven Megamix, the background in Rhythm Tweezers 2 was green with bright circles[5]. In the final build, the green color was moved to the short version of Rhythm Tweezers, and the circles were removed. These circles still exist in the game however, but are colored the same as the background, rendering them invisible. The ones in the short version of Rhythm Tweezers are replaced with squares, which are also colored the same as the background.

Nintendo Direct 2015.1.14
(Rhythm Tweezers 2) 		Final
(Rhythm Tweezers) 		Final
(Rhythm Tweezers 2)
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Screenshot 3DS Rhythm Tweezers 2.png

Unused Content

The onions and potatoes have tops to their sprites which go offscreen. The light bulbs in Machine Remix retain the same top as the onions they are based on, which is also offscreen.

There are sprites of a shaver of some kind, as well as a carrot and some kind of cone.

A sign reading ひ♥み♥っ (Secret♥?) which remains offscreen. Through modding, this can be made to hide the hairs behind the sign. There also two variations reading ふふっ (Huhu?), hiding only the right side, and うふっ (Uhu?), hiding only the left side. This is functionally identical to the みせてあげない♥ (No Peeking♥?) sign found in Remix 8 from Rhythm Tengoku, although the left half and right half variants are new.

Miscellaneous

The turnip had its color changed from pink to brown in the arcade version of Rhythm Tengoku, while in Rhythm Heaven Megamix, it is entirely replaced with the potato.

ConsoleGBA Icon.png ConsoleArcade Icon.png Console3DS Icon.png
Screenshot GBA Rhythm Datsumo Turnip.png
Screenshot Arcade Rhythm Datsumo Turnip.png
Screenshot 3DS Rhythm Tweezers 2 Potato.png

References

  1. ↑ "初期の段階では、主役はおっちゃんだったんです。ツルツル頭に生えた毛を、もろに抜いちゃうような仕様になっていまして（笑）。毛は抜かれると痛いですけど、キレイに抜けると気持ちがよかったりしますので、そういった複雑な心理を表現したいと思って、アラビア風の怪しげな曲にしました。でも、開発の大詰めになったときに、いくらゲームでも、頭の毛を抜くのはマズイだろろうということになりまして、タマネギが主役になりました。" (In the early stages, the leading role was played by an old man. The hairs on his smooth head were designed to be plucked out (laughs). It hurts when the hair is pulled out, but it feels good when it is pulled out cleanly, so we wanted to express that kind of complex psychology, so we decided on a weird Arabic-style song. However, when it came to the final stages of development, we decided that even in a game, it would be a bad idea to pull out the hairs on the head, so the onion became the main character.) ~ Masami Yone, Rhythm Tengoku Zen Kyoku-shu STAFF'S VOICE
  2. ↑ "ちなみに、リズムに合わせてヒゲではなく頭髪を抜くという案もあったのですが、それだとちょっと万人向けではないということあり、その案はボツになりました。ま、当然ですね（笑）。" (Incidentally, there was also a proposal to remove the hair from the head instead of the beard to match the rhythm, but that idea was rejected because it was not suitable for everyone. Well, of course it was (laughs).) ~ Katsuya Yamano, ほぼ日刊イトイ新聞 - 樹の上の秘密基地。 (Hobo Nikkan Itoi Shinbun - A secret base on a tree.)
  3. ↑ "At first it wasn't an onion, but a person's face. We were using a real photo of someone's face, but it was a little too gross." ~ Ko Takeuchi, Iwata Asks: Rhythm Heaven 2. Rhythm Tengoku: The Arcade Game
  4. ↑ "もともと、『リズム脱毛』のキャラクターは、開発スタッフの顔写真だったのですが、『リズム脱毛』で使用される音楽がアラビアンな曲ということもあり、モスク（たまねぎ型をした寺院）をイメージしながら描いたのがあの、たまねぎキャラなんです。" (Originally, the character for "Rhythm Datsumo" was a picture of a development staff member, but as the music used in "Rhythm Datsumo" is Arabian, I drew the onion character while imagining a mosque (a temple shaped like an onion).) ~ Ko Takeuchi, ほぼ日刊イトイ新聞 - 樹の上の秘密基地。 (Hobo Nikkan Itoi Shinbun - A secret base on a tree.)
  5. ↑ [Nintendo Direct JP] Rhythm Tengoku 3DS Annoucement
Rhythm Tengoku (GBA/Arcade)
Rhythm Games Omake Corner
Kissa Councel • Omocha • Game • Game GBA B-4.png • Game GBA B-5.png • Game GBA B-6.png
STAGE 1
Karateka • Rhythm Datsumo • Marcher • Air Batter • Pachi Pachi Sanninshu • Remix 1
STAGE 2
Shiroi Obake • Game GBA 2-2.png • Kossori Rat • Baikin Hakase • Game GBA 2-5.png • Remix 2
STAGE 3
Game GBA 3-1.png • Game GBA 3-2.png • Usagi Tobi • Game GBA 3-4.png • Game GBA 3-5.png • Remix 3
STAGE 4
Quiz • Game GBA 4-2.png • Rhythm o Shuji • Game GBA 4-4.png • Game GBA 4-5.png • Remix 4
STAGE 5
Hopping Road • Ninja • Game GBA 5-3.png • Game GBA 5-4.png • Tap Dance • Remix 5
Revival
Bari Bari Sanninshu • Game GBA 6-2.png • Cosmo Dance • Game GBA 6-4.png • Super Tap • Remix 6
Technician
Game GBA 7-1.png • Game GBA 7-2.png • Game GBA 7-3.png • Game GBA 7-4.png • Game GBA 7-5.png • Remix 7
Last Technician
Game GBA 8-1.png • Game GBA 8-2.png • Game GBA 8-3.png • Game GBA 8-4.png • Game GBA 8-5.png • Remix 8
Arcade Only (1P) Extra
Game GBA EX-1.png • Game GBA EX-2.png • Game GBA EX-3.png • Game GBA EX-4.png • Game GBA EX-5.png • Game GBA EX-6.png
Arcade Only (2P) STAGE 1
Game GBA 1-1.png • Game GBA 1-2.png • Game GBA 1-3.png • Game GBA 1-4.png
STAGE 2
Game GBA 2-1.png • Game GBA 2-3.png • Game GBA 3-3.png • Game GBA 2-5.png
STAGE 3
Game GBA 3-5.png • Game GBA 4-3.png • Game GBA 5-2.png • Game GBA 5-5.png
STAGE 4
Game GBA 7-1.png • Game GBA 7-2.png • Game GBA 6-3.png • Game GBA 7-5.png
STAGE 5
Game GBA 8-5.png • Game GBA 7-3.png • Game GBA 8-4.png • Game GBA 6-5.png
Extra
Game GBA EX-1.png • Game GBA EX-2.png • Game GBA EX-3.png • Game GBA EX-4.png
Rhythm Omocha
Game GBA T-1.gif • Game GBA T-2.gif • Game GBA T-3.gif • Game GBA T-4.gif
Endless Games
Ura Otoko • Game GBA E-2.png • Game GBA E-3.png • Game GBA E-4.png
Miscellaneous
Rhythm Heaven Megamix
Rhythm Games Earth World Honeybee Land
Karate Man • Game 3DS ntrRobot S.png • Game 3DS rvlBadminton S.png • Game 3DS ctrStep S.png
Machine Land
Game 3DS agbHair S.png • Game 3DS ntrChorus S.png • Game 3DS rvlMuscle S.png • Game 3DS ctrFruitbasket S.png
The First Gate
Game 3DS ntrCoinToss L.png
Citrus Land
Game 3DS agbClap S.png • Game 3DS ntrShooting S.png • Game 3DS rvlFlea S.png • Game 3DS ctrInterprerter S.png
Donut Land
Game 3DS agbRabbit L.png • Game 3DS ntrAirboard L.png • Game 3DS rvlBatting L.png • Game 3DS ctrChameleon L.png
The Second Gate
Sick Beats
Barbershop Land
Game 3DS agbGhost S.png • Game 3DS ntrPingpong S.png • Game 3DS rvlGoma S.png • Game 3DS ctrWoodCat S.png
Songbird Land
Game 3DS agbShuji L.png • Game 3DS ntrBlueBirds L.png • Game 3DS rvlBird L.png • Game 3DS ctrDotsamurai L.png
The Third Gate
Game 3DS ctrChicken L.png
Lush Woods Lush Tower
Game 3DS agbBatter L.png • Game 3DS ntrNinja L.png • Game 3DS rvlGolf L.png • Game 3DS ctrSumou L.png • Game 3DS remix LED.png
Honeybee Tower
Game 3DS rvlKarate 1.png • Game 3DS ntrRobot L.png • Game 3DS rvlBadminton L.png • Game 3DS ctrStep L.png • Game 3DS remix 00.png
Machine Tower
Game 3DS agbHair L.png • Game 3DS ntrChorus L.png • Game 3DS rvlMuscle L.png • Game 3DS ctrFruitbasket L.png • Game 3DS remix 01.png
Citrus Tower
Game 3DS agbClap L.png • Game 3DS ntrShooting L.png • Game 3DS rvlFlea L.png • Game 3DS ctrInterprerter L.png • Game 3DS remix 02.png
Donut Tower
Game 3DS agbRat L.png • Game 3DS ntrIdol L.png • Game 3DS rvlManju L.png • Game 3DS ctrBlanco L.png • Game 3DS remix 03.png
Barbershop Tower
Game 3DS agbGhost L.png • Game 3DS ntrPingpong L.png • Game 3DS rvlGoma L.png • Game 3DS ctrWoodCat L.png • Game 3DS remix 04.png
Songbird Tower
Game 3DS agbTap L.png • Game 3DS ntrFrog L.png • Game 3DS rvlInterview L.png • Game 3DS ctrTango L.png • Game 3DS remix 05.png
Heaven World Star Land
Game 3DS agbTono L.png • Game 3DS ntrCameraMan L.png • Game 3DS rvlRocket L.png • Game 3DS ctrPillow L.png
Comet Land
Game 3DS agbMarcher L.png • Game 3DS ntrShugyo L.png • Game 3DS rvlSeesaw L.png • Game 3DS ctrBear L.png
Planet Land
Game 3DS agbSpaceDance L.png • Game 3DS ntrBackbeat L.png • Game 3DS rvlBook L.png • Game 3DS ctrTeppan L.png
The Fourth Gate
Game 3DS rvlSword L.png
Mamarin Palace Left-Hand Tower
Game 3DS agbClap A.png • Game 3DS ntrIdol A.png • Game 3DS rvlMuscle A.png • Game 3DS ctrBlanco A.png • Game 3DS remix 06 2.png
Right-Hand Tower
Game 3DS agbTap A.png • Game 3DS ntrFrog A.png • Game 3DS rvlGolf A.png • Game 3DS ctrDotsamurai A.png • Game 3DS remix 07 2.png
Tibby's Mom
Game 3DS agbSpaceDance A.png • Game 3DS ntrPingpong A.png • Game 3DS rvlManju A.png • Game 3DS rvlKarate 4.png • Game 3DS remix TED 2.png
Shop Shop No. 1
Game 3DS agbHopping L.png • Game 3DS agbNightWalk L.png • Game 3DS agbQuiz L.png
Shop No. 2
Game 3DS ntrBoxShow L.png • Game 3DS ntrShortLive L.png • Game 3DS rvlKarate 2.png
Shop No. 3
Built to Scale • Game 3DS rvlDate L.png • Game 3DS rvlFishing L.png
Shop No. 4
Game 3DS rvlFork L.png • Game 3DS rvlRap L.png • Game 3DS rvlReceive L.png
Shop No. 5
Game 3DS rvlRobot L.png • Game 3DS rvlRotation L.png • Samurai Slice
Shop No. 6
Game 3DS rvlSort L.png • Game 3DS rvlWatch L.png • Game 3DS rvlKarate 3.png
Characters
Sprite 3DS Mascot Boondog.gif • Sprite 3DS Mascot Dieter.gif • Sprite 3DS Mascot Shep.gif • Sprite 3DS Mascot Donna.gif • Sprite 3DS Mascot Hairold.gif
Sprite 3DS Mascot Eglantine.gif • Sprite 3DS Mascot Trey.gif • Sprite 3DS Mascot Saffron.gif • Sprite 3DS Mascot Saltwater.gif • Sprite 3DS Mascot Paprika.gif
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Sprite 3DS Mascot Tibby's Mom.gif • Sprite 3DS Mascot Barista.gif • Sprite 3DS Mascot The Goat.gif • Sprite 3DS Mascot Rupert.gif • Sprite 3DS Mascot Samurai Drummer.gif
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